Comparison of Divisions: Deferred Divisions — Human Fertilisation and Embryology Bill [Lords] — 22 Oct 2008 at 17:45 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

(Swap the two divisions around).

Vote (a) (unedited): Deferred Divisions — Human Fertilisation and Embryology Bill [Lords] - 22 Oct 2008 at 17:45 - Division No. 285

Question accordingly negatived.

It being after Six o'clock, Mr. Speaker then proceeded to put the Questions necessary for the disposal of the business to be concluded at that hour, pursuant to Order [this day].

Amendment proposed: No. 41, page 3, line 26 , at end insert-

'(5A) Regulations made under subsection (5) may not provide for an egg or embryo whose nuclear genetic material has been altered by genetic modification, or whose nucleus has been replaced by the nucleus of a somatic cell, to be a permitted egg or a permitted embryo.

(5B) In this section, "genetic modification" includes the alteration of the nuclear genetic material of an egg or embryo by-

(a) recombinant nucleic acid techniques which change the DNA sequence of nuclear chromosomes of the egg or one or more cells of the embryo, or

(b) the introduction into the egg or into one or more cells of the embryo of a stably-maintained artificial chromosome, virus or plasmid.'.- [Mr. Drew.]

Question put, That the amendment be made:-

The House divided: Ayes 206, Noes 298.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by constituency

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)no absent
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)no absent
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)no absent
Tony BaldryBanburyConabsent aye
Eric IllsleyBarnsley CentralLab (minister)no absent
John HuttonBarrow and FurnessLab (minister)absent no
Angela SmithBasildonLababsent no
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)no absent
Don FosterBathLDem (front bench)no aye
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLabno aye
Martin LintonBatterseaLab (minister)no absent
Jacqui LaitBeckenhamCon (front bench)no aye
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)no absent
Michael MooreBerwickshire, Roxburgh and SelkirkLDem (front bench)no aye
Gregory BarkerBexhill and BattleCon (front bench)no aye
John BaronBillericayCon (front bench)absent aye
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)aye absent
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)aye absent
Clare ShortBirmingham, Ladywoodwhilst Independent Labourno absent
Khalid MahmoodBirmingham, Perry BarrLabno absent
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLab (minister)no absent
Roger GodsiffBirmingham, Sparkbrook and Small HeathLabno absent
Helen GoodmanBishop AucklandLab (minister)absent no
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)no aye
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLabaye absent
David CrausbyBolton North EastLab (minister)aye no
Brian IddonBolton South EastLab (minister)absent no
Ruth KellyBolton WestLabaye no
Joe BentonBootleLab (minister)aye no
David TredinnickBosworthConno aye
Tobias EllwoodBournemouth EastCon (front bench)absent aye
John ButterfillBournemouth WestCon (front bench)no absent
Andrew MacKayBracknellCon (front bench)no aye
Terry RooneyBradford NorthLab (minister)absent no
Marsha SinghBradford WestLab (minister)aye absent
Roger WilliamsBrecon and RadnorshireLDem (front bench)no absent
Eric PicklesBrentwood and OngarCon (front bench)absent aye
Madeleine MoonBridgendLab (minister)absent no
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)no aye
Desmond TurnerBrighton, KemptownLab (minister)absent no
Stephen WilliamsBristol WestLDem (front bench)absent aye
Julie KirkbrideBromsgroveCon (front bench)no absent
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)no aye
John BercowBuckinghamwhilst Con (front bench)no aye
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)no absent
David RuffleyBury St EdmundsCon (front bench)absent aye
Hywel WilliamsCaernarfonPC (front bench)no aye
John ThursoCaithness, Sutherland and Easter RossLDem (front bench)no aye
Chris McCaffertyCalder ValleyLabno absent
Harriet HarmanCamberwell and PeckhamLab (minister)absent no
David HowarthCambridgeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Jennifer WillottCardiff CentralLDem (front bench)no aye
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)no aye
Adam PriceCarmarthen East and DinefwrPC (front bench)no aye
Tom BrakeCarshalton and WallingtonLDem (front bench)no aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst UKIP (front bench)no absent
Stephen DorrellCharnwoodCon (front bench)no aye
Mark HunterCheadleLDem (front bench)absent aye
Martin HorwoodCheltenhamLDem (front bench)no aye
Paul HolmesChesterfieldLDem (front bench)no aye
Andrew TyrieChichesterCon (front bench)no aye
Theresa VilliersChipping BarnetCon (front bench)no aye
Christine RussellCity of ChesterLab (minister)absent no
Roberta Blackman-WoodsCity of DurhamLab (minister)absent no
Hugh BayleyCity of YorkLab (minister)absent no
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLabno aye
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)no absent
Tom ClarkeCoatbridge, Chryston and BellshillLab (minister)aye no
Kali MountfordColne ValleyLab (minister)no absent
Betty WilliamsConwyLabno absent
Jamie ReedCopelandLab (minister)no absent
Phil HopeCorbyLab (minister)absent no
Geoffrey Clifton-BrownCotswoldCon (front bench)no aye
Bob AinsworthCoventry North EastLab (minister)absent no
Jim CunninghamCoventry SouthLab (minister)aye no
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independent (front bench)no aye
Richard OttawayCroydon SouthCon (front bench)no aye
Rosemary McKennaCumbernauld, Kilsyth and Kirkintilloch EastLab (minister)aye no
Jon CruddasDagenhamLabaye absent
Andrew GwynneDenton and ReddishLab (minister)aye no
Ed MilibandDoncaster NorthLab (minister)no absent
Stewart HosieDundee EastSNP (front bench)aye absent
Jim McGovernDundee WestLab (minister)absent no
Willie RennieDunfermline and West FifeLDem (front bench)no aye
John CummingsEasingtonLab (minister)aye no
Jo SwinsonEast DunbartonshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Adam IngramEast Kilbride, Strathaven and LesmahagowLababsent no
Gregory CampbellEast LondonderryDUP (front bench)absent aye
Anne MoffatEast LothianLab (minister)no absent
Jim MurphyEast RenfrewshireLab (minister)aye no
Christopher HuhneEastleighLDem (front bench)no aye
Ian StewartEcclesLab (minister)absent no
Alistair DarlingEdinburgh South WestLab (minister)absent no
Eleanor LaingEpping ForestCon (front bench)no aye
Ian TaylorEsher and WaltonConno aye
Julia GoldsworthyFalmouth and CamborneLDem (front bench)absent aye
Mark DurkanFoyleSDLP (front bench)aye absent
Michael JackFyldeCon (front bench)no absent
Mohammad SarwarGlasgow CentralLab (minister)absent no
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLabno absent
Tom HarrisGlasgow SouthLababsent no
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Malcolm BruceGordonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)no absent
Austin MitchellGreat GrimsbyLab (minister)no absent
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)no absent
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabno aye
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLabno aye
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLab (minister)aye absent
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)no aye
David DavisHaltemprice and HowdenConaye absent
Derek TwiggHaltonLabaye no
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLabno aye
Bill RammellHarlowLab (minister)no absent
Phil WillisHarrogate and KnaresboroughLDem (front bench)absent aye
Douglas CarswellHarwichCon (front bench)no aye
Michael Jabez FosterHastings and RyeLab (minister)aye no
David WillettsHavantCon (front bench)absent aye
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLabno aye
Andrew StunellHazel GroveLDemno aye
Jon TrickettHemsworthLab (minister)absent no
Paul KeetchHerefordLDem (front bench)no absent
James ClappisonHertsmereCon (front bench)no absent
Peter AtkinsonHexhamCon (front bench)no aye
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLab (minister)aye absent
Tom LevittHigh PeakLab (minister)absent no
Lynne FeatherstoneHornsey and Wood GreenLDem (front bench)no aye
Francis MaudeHorshamCon (front bench)aye absent
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)aye absent
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLabno aye
Don TouhigIslwynLab (minister)aye no
Ann CryerKeighleyLab (minister)absent no
Des BrowneKilmarnock and LoudounLabaye no
Edward DaveyKingston and SurbitonLDem (front bench)no aye
John PrescottKingston upon Hull EastLabno absent
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)absent no
Edward O'HaraKnowsley SouthLab (minister)no absent
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)no absent
George MudieLeeds EastLab (minister)aye no
Keith VazLeicester EastLab (minister)absent aye
Peter SoulsbyLeicester SouthLab (minister)absent no
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)no aye
Michael FabricantLichfieldCon (front bench)no aye
Michael ConnartyLinlithgow and East FalkirkLab (minister)aye no
Peter TapsellLouth and HorncastleConabsent aye
Philip DunneLudlowCon (front bench)no aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)no aye
Gerald KaufmanManchester, GortonLab (minister)aye no
John LeechManchester, WithingtonLDem (front bench)no aye
Alan MealeMansfieldLabno absent
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLabno aye
Elfyn LlwydMeirionnydd Nant ConwyPC (front bench)absent aye
Caroline SpelmanMeridenCon (front bench)absent aye
Keith SimpsonMid NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter LuffMid WorcestershireCon (front bench)aye absent
Stuart BellMiddlesbroughLab (minister)absent no
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLab (minister)no absent
Siobhain McDonaghMitcham and MordenLababsent no
Paul BeresfordMole ValleyCon (front bench)no aye
Angus RobertsonMoraySNP (front bench)absent aye
Geraldine SmithMorecambe and LunesdaleLab (minister)absent no
Colin ChallenMorley and RothwellLab (minister)aye no
Frank RoyMotherwell and WishawLab (minister)aye no
Angus MacNeilNa h-Eileanan an IarSNP (front bench)aye absent
Julian LewisNew Forest EastCon (front bench)absent aye
Patrick MercerNewarkCon (front bench)absent aye
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)absent aye
Jessica MordenNewport EastLab (minister)absent no
Paul FlynnNewport WestLab (minister)no absent
Ian PaisleyNorth AntrimDUPaye absent
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)no absent
Nick HarveyNorth DevonLDem (front bench)no aye
Robert WalterNorth DorsetConaye absent
Malcolm MossNorth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Menzies CampbellNorth East FifeLDem (front bench)absent aye
James ArbuthnotNorth East HampshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Oliver HealdNorth East HertfordshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Bernard JenkinNorth EssexCon (front bench)no aye
Norman LambNorth NorfolkLDem (front bench)no aye
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Simon HughesNorth Southwark and BermondseyLDem (front bench)absent aye
Roger GaleNorth ThanetCon (front bench)absent aye
Stephen ByersNorth TynesideLabaye absent
Mike O'BrienNorth WarwickshireLab (minister)absent no
George YoungNorth West HampshireCon (front bench)no aye
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)aye both
James GrayNorth WiltshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthCon (front bench)tellaye absent
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLab (minister)no absent
Graham AllenNottingham NorthLababsent no
Gordon BanksOchil and South PerthshireLab (minister)absent no
Alistair CarmichaelOrkney and ShetlandLDem (front bench)aye absent
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabno aye
Evan HarrisOxford West and AbingdonLDem (front bench)no aye
Pete WishartPerth and North PerthshireSNP (front bench)no aye
Alison SeabeckPlymouth, DevonportLababsent no
Sarah McCarthy-FryPortsmouth NorthLab (minister)absent no
Mike HancockPortsmouth SouthLDem (front bench)aye absent
Mark HendrickPrestonLab (minister)aye no
Paul TruswellPudseyLababsent aye
Justine GreeningPutneyCon (front bench)no aye
Mark FrancoisRayleighCon (front bench)absent aye
Martin SalterReading WestLab (minister)no absent
Vera BairdRedcarLab (minister)absent no
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)no absent
Nigel EvansRibble ValleyConaye absent
William HagueRichmond (Yorks)Con (front bench)absent aye
Susan KramerRichmond ParkLDem (front bench)no aye
Paul RowenRochdaleLDem (front bench)aye absent
Sandra GidleyRomseyLDem (front bench)no absent
Charles KennedyRoss, Skye and LochaberLDemaye absent
Kenneth ClarkeRushcliffeCon (front bench)no absent
Thomas McAvoyRutherglen and Hamilton WestLab (minister)aye no
Alan DuncanRutland and MeltonCon (front bench)absent aye
Robert KeySalisburyCon (front bench)no aye
John GroganSelbyLab (minister)aye no
Richard CabornSheffield CentralLabno absent
Nick CleggSheffield, HallamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Paddy TippingSherwoodLab (minister)no absent
David CurrySkipton and RiponCon (front bench)no aye
Douglas HoggSleaford and North HykehamConabsent aye
Eddie McGradySouth DownSDLPaye absent
James PaiceSouth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Colin BreedSouth East CornwallLDem (front bench)absent aye
Richard BaconSouth NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
David BorrowSouth RibbleLab (minister)aye no
Tim YeoSouth SuffolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLabno absent
Gary StreeterSouth West DevonCon (front bench)absent aye
David GaukeSouth West HertfordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Christopher FraserSouth West NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Jeremy HuntSouth West SurreyCon (front bench)no aye
Shaun WoodwardSt Helens SouthLab (minister)no absent
Andrew GeorgeSt IvesLDem (front bench)no aye
Anne McGuireStirlingLabaye absent
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLabno aye
Rob FlelloStoke-on-Trent SouthLab (minister)aye no
Iris RobinsonStrangfordDUPaye absent
John MaplesStratford-on-AvonCon (front bench)no absent
David DrewStroudLab (minister)aye no
Michael GoveSurrey HeathCon (front bench)absent aye
Paul BurstowSutton and CheamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Andrew MitchellSutton ColdfieldCon (front bench)no aye
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)no absent
George OsborneTattonCon (front bench)absent aye
Jeremy BrowneTauntonLDem (front bench)no aye
Richard Younger-RossTeignbridgeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Angela BrowningTiverton and HonitonCon (front bench)absent aye
Sadiq KhanTootingLab (minister)aye no
Adrian SandersTorbayLDem (front bench)no aye
Paul MurphyTorfaenLab (minister)aye no
Anthony SteenTotnesCon (front bench)no aye
Matthew TaylorTruro and St AustellLDemno aye
Greg ClarkTunbridge WellsCon (front bench)no aye
Chris RuaneVale of ClwydLab (minister)aye no
Anne McIntoshVale of YorkCon (front bench)no aye
Mary CreaghWakefieldLab (minister)aye no
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)no aye
Denis MurphyWansbeckLab (minister)aye no
Ed VaizeyWantageCon (front bench)absent aye
Helen JonesWarrington NorthLab (minister)aye no
Helen SouthworthWarrington SouthLab (minister)absent no
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)no absent
Grant ShappsWelwyn HatfieldCon (front bench)no aye
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)no absent
John McFallWest DunbartonshireLab (minister)aye no
Rosie CooperWest LancashireLab (minister)aye no
Richard SpringWest SuffolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Michael SpicerWest WorcestershireCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew MurrisonWestburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Tim FarronWestmorland and LonsdaleLDem (front bench)absent aye
John PenroseWeston-Super-MareCon (front bench)no aye
Adam AfriyieWindsorCon (front bench)absent aye
Ben ChapmanWirral SouthLab (minister)aye no
Stephen HesfordWirral WestLab (minister)absent no
David CameronWitneyCon (front bench)absent aye
Humfrey MalinsWokingCon (front bench)aye absent
Liam FoxWoodspringCon (front bench)absent aye
Tony CunninghamWorkingtonLab (minister)aye no
Peter BottomleyWorthing WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard TaylorWyre ForestIndependent (front bench)no aye
David LawsYeovilLDem (front bench)no aye
Albert OwenYnys MônLab (minister)aye no

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 645 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 315 voted the same way, with 110 voting in opposite ways. There were 48 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 172 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up the same way. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
315
(315 + 110 + 0.2x172)
=
315
459.4
= 0.686 = 68.6 %.


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