Comparison of Divisions: Prime Minister — Northern Ireland Bill (Allocation of Time) — 4 Mar 2009 at 14:23 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) (unedited): Prime Minister — Northern Ireland Bill (Allocation of Time) - 4 Mar 2009 at 14:23 - Division No. 53

I beg to move,

That the following provisions shall apply to the proceedings on the Northern Ireland Bill-

I beg to move amendment (a), in paragraph 1(1), leave out 'at today's sitting' and insert

'in two allotted days, which shall not be consecutive,'.

Question put, That the amendment be made.

The House divided: Ayes 213, Noes 276.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by party

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthCon (front bench)aye absent
Tim BoswellDaventryCon (front bench)aye absent
John ButterfillBournemouth WestCon (front bench)aye absent
James ClappisonHertsmereCon (front bench)aye absent
Kenneth ClarkeRushcliffeCon (front bench)aye absent
David DavisHaltemprice and HowdenConaye absent
James GrayNorth WiltshireCon (front bench)aye absent
John GreenwayRyedaleConaye absent
Oliver HealdNorth East HertfordshireCon (front bench)aye absent
David Heathcoat-AmoryWellsCon (front bench)aye absent
John HoramOrpingtonCon (front bench)aye absent
Michael JackFyldeCon (front bench)aye absent
Julie KirkbrideBromsgroveCon (front bench)aye absent
Peter LuffMid WorcestershireCon (front bench)aye absent
Humfrey MalinsWokingCon (front bench)aye absent
John MaplesStratford-on-AvonCon (front bench)aye absent
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireCon (front bench)aye absent
John StanleyTonbridge and MallingCon (front bench)aye absent
David WilshireSpelthorneCon (front bench)aye absent
Peter AinsworthEast SurreyCon (front bench)absent aye
James ArbuthnotNorth East HampshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard BaconSouth NorfolkCon (front bench)absent aye
Gregory BarkerBexhill and BattleCon (front bench)absent aye
John BercowBuckinghamwhilst Con (front bench)absent aye
Angela BrowningTiverton and HonitonCon (front bench)absent aye
David CameronWitneyCon (front bench)absent aye
Bill CashStoneCon (front bench)absent aye
Geoffrey CoxTorridge and West DevonCon (front bench)absent aye
Iain Duncan SmithChingford and Woodford GreenConabsent aye
Tobias EllwoodBournemouth EastCon (front bench)absent aye
Roger GaleNorth ThanetCon (front bench)absent aye
Nick GibbBognor Regis and LittlehamptonCon (front bench)absent aye
Robert GoodwillScarborough and WhitbyCon (front bench)absent aye
Chris GraylingEpsom and EwellCon (front bench)absent aye
Justine GreeningPutneyCon (front bench)absent aye
William HagueRichmond (Yorks)Con (front bench)absent aye
Mark HarperForest of DeanCon (front bench)absent aye
Charles HendryWealdenCon (front bench)absent aye
Nick HerbertArundel and South DownsCon (front bench)absent aye
Douglas HoggSleaford and North HykehamConabsent aye
Adam HollowayGraveshamCon (front bench)absent aye
Jeremy HuntSouth West SurreyCon (front bench)absent aye
Bernard JenkinNorth EssexCon (front bench)absent aye
David JonesClwyd WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Daniel KawczynskiShrewsbury and AtchamCon (front bench)absent aye
Robert KeySalisburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew LansleySouth CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter LilleyHitchin and HarpendenConabsent aye
David MacleanPenrith and The BorderCon (front bench)absent aye
Theresa MayMaidenheadCon (front bench)absent aye
Anne McIntoshVale of YorkCon (front bench)absent aye
Patrick McLoughlinWest DerbyshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Eric PicklesBrentwood and OngarCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark PriskHertford and StortfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew SelousSouth West BedfordshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Anthony SteenTotnesCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter TapsellLouth and HorncastleConabsent aye
David TredinnickBosworthConabsent aye
Andrew TyrieChichesterCon (front bench)absent aye
Ed VaizeyWantageCon (front bench)absent aye
Ann WiddecombeMaidstone and The WealdConabsent aye
Tim YeoSouth SuffolkCon (front bench)absent aye
David SimpsonUpper BannDUP (front bench)aye absent
Richard TaylorWyre ForestIndependent (front bench)absent aye
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Clare ShortBirmingham, Ladywoodwhilst Independent Labouraye absent
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)no aye
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLabno aye
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)no aye
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)no aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)no aye
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)no aye
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLabno aye
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLabno aye
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLabno aye
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLab (minister)no aye
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)no aye
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLab (minister)no aye
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)no aye
Andy ReedLoughboroughLab (minister)no aye
Linda RiordanHalifaxLab (minister)no aye
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLabno aye
Paul TruswellPudseyLabno aye
Keith VazLeicester EastLab (minister)no aye
John AustinErith and ThamesmeadLab (minister)no absent
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLab (minister)no absent
John BattleLeeds WestLab (minister)no absent
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)no absent
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)no absent
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)no absent
Colin BurgonElmetLabno absent
Stephen ByersNorth TynesideLabno absent
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLabno absent
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)no absent
Michael ClaphamBarnsley West and PenistoneLab (minister)no absent
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)no absent
Frank CookStockton NorthLab (minister)no absent
Jon CruddasDagenhamLabno absent
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLab (minister)no absent
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)no absent
Paul FlynnNewport WestLab (minister)no absent
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLab (minister)no absent
Roger GodsiffBirmingham, Sparkbrook and Small HeathLabno absent
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)no absent
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)no absent
Fabian HamiltonLeeds North EastLab (minister)no absent
Doug HendersonNewcastle upon Tyne NorthLabno absent
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)no absent
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLab (minister)no absent
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)no absent
Eric IllsleyBarnsley CentralLab (minister)no absent
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)no absent
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLab (minister)no absent
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)no absent
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLabno absent
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)no absent
Martin LintonBatterseaLabno absent
Denis MacShaneRotherhamLabno absent
John MannBassetlawLab (minister)no absent
Chris McCaffertyCalder ValleyLabno absent
Anne McGuireStirlingLabno absent
Anne MoffatEast LothianLab (minister)no absent
Sandra OsborneAyr, Carrick and CumnockLab (minister)no absent
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)no absent
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)no absent
John PrescottKingston upon Hull EastLabno absent
Bill RammellHarlowLab (minister)no absent
Jamie ReedCopelandLab (minister)no absent
John RobertsonGlasgow North WestLab (minister)no absent
Martin SalterReading WestLab (minister)no absent
Marsha SinghBradford WestLab (minister)no absent
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLabno absent
Gavin StrangEdinburgh EastLab (minister)no absent
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)no absent
Paddy TippingSherwoodLab (minister)no absent
Neil TurnerWiganLabno absent
Betty WilliamsConwyLabno absent
Shaun WoodwardSt Helens SouthLab (minister)no absent
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)no absent
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLababsent aye
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)absent aye
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLababsent aye
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLababsent aye
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLababsent aye
Andrew SmithOxford EastLababsent aye
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLababsent aye
Vera BairdRedcarLab (minister)absent no
Edward BallsNormantonLab (minister)absent no
Hugh BayleyCity of YorkLab (minister)absent no
Stuart BellMiddlesbroughLab (minister)absent no
Joe BentonBootleLab (minister)absent no
Roberta Blackman-WoodsCity of DurhamLab (minister)absent no
David BlunkettSheffield, BrightsideLababsent no
David BorrowSouth RibbleLab (minister)absent no
Kevin BrennanCardiff WestLab (minister)absent no
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)absent no
Ann ClwydCynon ValleyLab (minister)absent no
Jim CousinsNewcastle upon Tyne CentralLab (minister)absent no
David CrausbyBolton North EastLab (minister)absent no
Alistair DarlingEdinburgh South WestLab (minister)absent no
Wayne DavidCaerphillyLab (minister)absent no
John DenhamSouthampton, ItchenLab (minister)absent no
Jim DowdLewisham WestLab (minister)absent no
Barry GardinerBrent NorthLababsent no
Linda GilroyPlymouth, SuttonLab (minister)absent no
David HamiltonMidlothianLab (minister)absent no
David HansonDelynLab (minister)absent no
Dai HavardMerthyr Tydfil and RhymneyLab (minister)absent no
Patricia HewittLeicester WestLababsent no
Adam IngramEast Kilbride, Strathaven and LesmahagowLababsent no
Brian JenkinsTamworthLab (minister)absent no
Ann KeenBrentford and IsleworthLab (minister)absent no
Ruth KellyBolton WestLababsent no
Jane KennedyLiverpool, WavertreeLab (minister)absent no
Fiona MactaggartSloughLab (minister)absent no
Ann McKechinGlasgow NorthLab (minister)absent no
Alan MilburnDarlingtonLababsent no
Laura MoffattCrawleyLababsent no
Jessica MordenNewport EastLab (minister)absent no
Chris MullinSunderland SouthLab (minister)absent no
James PurnellStalybridge and HydeLab (minister)absent no
John SmithVale of GlamorganLab (minister)absent no
Helen SouthworthWarrington SouthLab (minister)absent no
Jack StrawBlackburnLab (minister)absent no
Mark ToddSouth DerbyshireLab (minister)absent no
Dave WattsSt Helens NorthLab (minister)absent tellno
Malcolm WicksCroydon NorthLababsent no
Michael WillsNorth SwindonLab (minister)absent no
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)absent both
Alistair CarmichaelOrkney and ShetlandLDem (front bench)aye absent
Sandra GidleyRomseyLDem (front bench)aye absent
Paul KeetchHerefordLDem (front bench)aye absent
Paul RowenRochdaleLDem (front bench)aye absent
Roger WilliamsBrecon and RadnorshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Colin BreedSouth East CornwallLDem (front bench)absent aye
Vincent CableTwickenhamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Nick CleggSheffield, HallamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Julia GoldsworthyFalmouth and CamborneLDem (front bench)absent aye
Bob RussellColchesterLDem (front bench)absent aye
Richard Younger-RossTeignbridgeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Adam PriceCarmarthen East and DinefwrPC (front bench)absent aye
Mark DurkanFoyleSDLP (front bench)aye absent
Eddie McGradySouth DownSDLPaye absent
John MasonGlasgow EastSNP (front bench)absent aye
Angus RobertsonMoraySNP (front bench)absent aye
Michael WeirAngusSNP (front bench)absent aye
Sylvia HermonNorth DownUUP (front bench)absent aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 646 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 392 voted the same way, with 18 voting in opposite ways. There were 48 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 188 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up the same way. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
392
(392 + 18 + 0.2x188)
=
392
447.6
= 0.876 = 87.6 %.


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