Comparison of Divisions: Electoral Administration Bill — Clause 15 — Personal identifiers: piloting — 8 Nov 2005 at 21:15 with Division No. 104 on 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49

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Vote (a) (unedited): Electoral Administration Bill — Clause 15 — Personal identifiers: piloting - 8 Nov 2005 at 21:15 - Division No. 82

I beg to move amendment No. 4, in clause 15, page 14, line 17, leave out subsection (1).

Question put, That the amendment be made:-

The Committee divided: Ayes 201, Noes 283.

Vote (b) : Gurkha Settlement Rights — Government defeat - 29 Apr 2009 at 15:49 - Division No. 104

The majority of MPs voted in favour of the motion:[1]

  • This House
  • regrets the Government's recent statement[2] outlining the eligibility criteria for Gurkhas to reside in the United Kingdom;
  • recognises the contribution the Gurkhas have made to the safety and freedom of the United Kingdom for the past 200 years;
  • notes that more Gurkhas have laid down their lives for the United Kingdom than are estimated to want to live here;
  • believes that Gurkhas who retired before 1997 should be treated fairly and in the same way as those who have retired since;
  • is concerned that the Government's new guidelines will permit only a small minority of Gurkhas and their families to settle whilst preventing the vast majority;
  • further believes that people who are prepared to fight and die for the United Kingdom should be entitled to live in the country; and
  • calls upon the Government to withdraw its new guidelines immediately and bring forward revised proposals that extend an equal right of residence to all Gurkhas.

As a consequence, the alternative Government motion, which read:[3]

  • This House
  • recognises that this Government is the only one since the Second World War to allow Gurkhas and their families settlement rights to the United Kingdom;
  • notes that in 2004 the Government permitted settlement rights to Gurkhas discharged since 1997, following the transfer of the Brigade HQ from Hong Kong to the United Kingdom;
  • further notes that under these rules around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members have been welcomed to the UK;
  • acknowledges that the court judgement of September 2008 determined that the 1997 cut-off date was fair and rational, while seeking clarification of the criteria for settlement rights for those who retired before 1997;
  • further notes that on 24 April the Government published new and more generous guidelines for the settlement applications of Gurkhas who retired before 1997;
  • supports this revised guidance, which will make around 10,000 Gurkhas and family members eligible to settle in the UK;
  • further notes that the Government undertakes actively to inform those who may be eligible in Nepal of these changes and to review the impact of the new guidance within 12 months;
  • further notes that the contribution Gurkhas have made is already recognised by pensions paid to around 25,000 Gurkhas or their widows in Nepal that allow for a good standard of living there; and
  • further notes that in the year 2000 Gurkha pensions were doubled and that, earlier in April 2009, in addition to an inflationary uplift of 14 per cent., those over 80 years old received a 20 per cent. increase in their pension.

... was never voted upon.

Although this extremely rare Government defeat in an opposition day motion is not binding (has no legal force)[4] a Government minister made a statement later in the day to bring "forward the date for the determination of the outstanding applications to the end of May."[5]

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Difference in Votes - sorted by party

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) differed from their vote on Motion (b). You can also see just opposite votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Brian BinleyNorthampton SouthConaye absent
Tim BoswellDaventryCon (front bench)aye absent
James ClappisonHertsmereCon (front bench)aye absent
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Con (front bench)aye absent
Nigel EvansRibble ValleyConaye absent
Eric ForthBromley and ChislehurstCon (front bench)aye absent
James GrayNorth WiltshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Oliver HealdNorth East HertfordshireCon (front bench)aye absent
David Heathcoat-AmoryWellsCon (front bench)aye absent
John HoramOrpingtonCon (front bench)aye absent
Michael JackFyldeCon (front bench)aye absent
Boris JohnsonHenleyConaye absent
Julie KirkbrideBromsgroveCon (front bench)aye absent
Peter LuffMid WorcestershireCon (front bench)aye absent
Humfrey MalinsWokingCon (front bench)aye absent
John MaplesStratford-on-AvonCon (front bench)aye absent
Malcolm MossNorth East CambridgeshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Owen PatersonNorth ShropshireCon (front bench)aye absent
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Con (front bench)aye absent
John StanleyTonbridge and MallingCon (front bench)aye absent
Robert WalterNorth DorsetConaye absent
David WilshireSpelthorneCon (front bench)aye absent
Sir David AmessSouthend WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Tony BaldryBanburyConabsent aye
John BercowBuckinghamwhilst Con (front bench)absent aye
David CameronWitneyCon (front bench)absent aye
Bill CashStoneCon (front bench)absent aye
Christopher ChopeChristchurchCon (front bench)absent aye
Stephen CrabbPreseli PembrokeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
David DaviesMonmouthCon (front bench)absent aye
Philip DaviesShipleyConabsent aye
Alan DuncanRutland and MeltonCon (front bench)absent aye
Iain Duncan SmithChingford and Woodford GreenConabsent aye
Liam FoxWoodspringCon (front bench)absent aye
Roger GaleNorth ThanetCon (front bench)absent aye
Edward GarnierHarboroughCon (front bench)absent aye
Philip HammondRunnymede and WeybridgeCon (front bench)absent aye
John HayesSouth Holland and The DeepingsCon (front bench)absent aye
Charles HendryWealdenCon (front bench)absent aye
Mark HobanFarehamConabsent aye
Douglas HoggSleaford and North HykehamConabsent aye
Adam HollowayGraveshamConabsent aye
Michael HowardFolkestone and HytheCon (front bench)absent aye
John HowellHenleyConabsent aye
Bernard JenkinNorth EssexCon (front bench)absent aye
David JonesClwyd WestCon (front bench)absent aye
Robert KeySalisburyCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew LansleySouth CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Anne MainSt AlbansCon (front bench)absent aye
Anne McIntoshVale of YorkCon (front bench)absent aye
Patrick McLoughlinWest DerbyshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Patrick MercerNewarkCon (front bench)absent aye
Anne MiltonGuildfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Bob NeillBromley and ChislehurstConabsent aye
George OsborneTattonCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard OttawayCroydon SouthCon (front bench)absent aye
John PenroseWeston-Super-MareCon (front bench)absent aye
Malcolm RifkindKensington and ChelseaCon (front bench)absent aye
Andrew RosindellRomfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Richard ShepherdAldridge-BrownhillsCon (front bench)absent aye
Nicholas SoamesMid SussexConabsent aye
Robert SymsPooleCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter TapsellLouth and HorncastleConabsent aye
Edward TimpsonCrewe and NantwichConabsent aye
Ed VaizeyWantageConabsent aye
Shailesh VaraNorth West CambridgeshireCon (front bench)absent aye
Peter ViggersGosportCon (front bench)absent aye
Charles WalkerBroxbourneCon (front bench)absent aye
John WhittingdaleMaldon and East ChelmsfordCon (front bench)absent aye
Ann WiddecombeMaidstone and The WealdCon (front bench)absent aye
David WillettsHavantCon (front bench)absent aye
Tim YeoSouth SuffolkConabsent aye
Iris RobinsonStrangfordDUPaye absent
David SimpsonUpper BannDUP (front bench)aye absent
Peter LawBlaenau GwentIndependentno absent
Dai DaviesBlaenau GwentIndependentabsent aye
Andrew PellingCroydon Centralwhilst Independentabsent aye
Bob SpinkCastle Pointwhilst Independent (front bench)absent aye
Richard TaylorWyre ForestIndependent (front bench)absent aye
Robert WareingLiverpool, West Derbywhilst Independentabsent aye
Diane AbbottHackney North and Stoke NewingtonLabno aye
Ian CawseyBrigg and GooleLab (minister)no aye
Harry CohenLeyton and WansteadLab (minister)no aye
Mark FisherStoke-on-Trent CentralLabno aye
Neil GerrardWalthamstowLab (minister)no aye
Kate HoeyVauxhallLabno aye
Kelvin HopkinsLuton NorthLab (minister)no aye
Joan HumbleBlackpool North and FleetwoodLab (minister)no aye
Glenda JacksonHampstead and HighgateLabno aye
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)no aye
Gordon MarsdenBlackpool SouthLab (minister)no aye
Robert Marshall-AndrewsMedwayLabno aye
John Martin McDonnellHayes and HarlingtonLabno aye
Shona McIsaacCleethorpesLabno aye
Julie MorganCardiff NorthLab (minister)no aye
Nick PalmerBroxtoweLabno aye
Steve PoundEaling NorthLab (minister)no aye
Nick RaynsfordGreenwich and WoolwichLabno aye
Andy ReedLoughboroughLabno aye
Linda RiordanHalifaxLabno aye
Alan SimpsonNottingham SouthLabno aye
Andrew SmithOxford EastLabno aye
Paul TruswellPudseyLabno aye
David TaylorNorth West LeicestershireLab (minister)no both
Adrian BaileyWest Bromwich WestLabno absent
John BattleLeeds WestLab (minister)no absent
Hilary BennLeeds CentralLab (minister)no absent
Karen BuckRegent's Park and Kensington NorthLab (minister)no absent
Richard BurdenBirmingham, NorthfieldLab (minister)no absent
Colin BurgonElmetLab (minister)no absent
Richard CabornSheffield CentralLab (minister)no absent
Ronnie CampbellBlyth ValleyLab (minister)no absent
Martin CatonGowerLab (minister)no absent
Michael ClaphamBarnsley West and PenistoneLab (minister)no absent
Katy ClarkNorth Ayrshire and ArranLab (minister)no absent
Charles ClarkeNorwich SouthLab (minister)no absent
Frank CookStockton NorthLab (minister)no absent
Jon CruddasDagenhamLabno absent
Claire Curtis-ThomasCrosbyLab (minister)no absent
Jim DobbinHeywood and MiddletonLab (minister)no absent
Frank FieldBirkenheadLab (minister)no absent
Paul FlynnNewport WestLab (minister)no absent
Mike GapesIlford SouthLab (minister)no absent
Ian GibsonNorwich NorthLab (minister)no absent
Mike HallWeaver ValeLab (minister)no absent
Patrick HallBedfordLab (minister)no absent
Doug HendersonNewcastle upon Tyne NorthLabno absent
David HeyesAshton-under-LyneLab (minister)no absent
Meg HillierHackney South and ShoreditchLab (minister)no absent
Geoff HoonAshfieldLab (minister)no absent
Lindsay HoyleChorleyLab (minister)no absent
Eric IllsleyBarnsley CentralLab (minister)no absent
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)no absent
Lynne JonesBirmingham, Selly OakLab (minister)no absent
Martyn JonesClwyd SouthLab (minister)no absent
Piara S KhabraEaling, SouthallLab (minister)no absent
Peter KilfoyleLiverpool, WaltonLabno absent
Ashok KumarMiddlesbrough South and East ClevelandLabno absent
Ivan LewisBury SouthLab (minister)no absent
Martin LintonBatterseaLabno absent
John MacDougallGlenrothesLab (minister)no absent
Denis MacShaneRotherhamLabno absent
Judy MallaberAmber ValleyLab (minister)no absent
John MannBassetlawLabno absent
David MarshallGlasgow EastLab (minister)no absent
Chris McCaffertyCalder ValleyLabno absent
Michael MeacherOldham West and RoytonLabno absent
Anne MoffatEast LothianLab (minister)no absent
Kali MountfordColne ValleyLabno absent
Greg PopeHyndburnLab (minister)no absent
Bridget PrenticeLewisham EastLab (minister)no absent
John PrescottKingston upon Hull EastLab (minister)no absent
Jamie ReedCopelandLab (minister)no absent
Martin SalterReading WestLabno absent
Marsha SinghBradford WestLab (minister)no absent
Anne SnelgroveSouth SwindonLab (minister)no absent
Gisela StuartBirmingham, EdgbastonLab (minister)no absent
Paddy TippingSherwoodLabno absent
Neil TurnerWiganLabno absent
Betty WilliamsConwyLab (minister)no absent
Shaun WoodwardSt Helens SouthLab (minister)no absent
Anthony D WrightGreat YarmouthLab (minister)no absent
Jeremy CorbynIslington NorthLababsent aye
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)absent aye
Keith VazLeicester EastLababsent aye
Mike WoodBatley and SpenLababsent aye
Douglas AlexanderPaisley and Renfrewshire SouthLab (minister)absent no
Charlotte AtkinsStaffordshire MoorlandsLab (minister)absent no
Kevin BarronRother ValleyLab (minister)absent no
Margaret BeckettDerby SouthLab (minister)absent no
Bob BlizzardWaveneyLababsent no
David BlunkettSheffield, BrightsideLababsent no
Gordon BrownKirkcaldy and CowdenbeathLab (minister)absent no
Nick BrownNewcastle upon Tyne East and WallsendLababsent no
Ben ChapmanWirral SouthLab (minister)absent no
Yvette CooperPontefract and CastlefordLab (minister)absent no
Quentin DaviesGrantham and Stamfordwhilst Lab (front bench)absent no
David DrewStroudLab (minister)absent no
Jim FitzpatrickPoplar and Canning TownLab (minister)absent no
Peter HainNeathLab (minister)absent no
Dai HavardMerthyr Tydfil and RhymneyLab (minister)absent no
Phil HopeCorbyLab (minister)absent no
Beverley HughesStretford and UrmstonLab (minister)absent no
John HuttonBarrow and FurnessLab (minister)absent no
Alan JohnsonKingston upon Hull West and HessleLab (minister)absent no
Tessa JowellDulwich and West NorwoodLab (minister)absent no
Ruth KellyBolton WestLab (minister)absent no
David LammyTottenhamLab (minister)absent no
Ian McCartneyMakerfieldLab (minister)absent no
Tony McNultyHarrow EastLab (minister)absent no
Alan MilburnDarlingtonLababsent no
George MudieLeeds EastLab (minister)absent no
Meg MunnSheffield, HeeleyLab (minister)absent no
Doug NaysmithBristol North WestLab (minister)absent no
Ian PearsonDudley SouthLab (minister)absent no
Dawn PrimaroloBristol SouthLab (minister)absent no
Lindsay RoyGlenrothesLababsent no
Christine RussellCity of ChesterLab (minister)absent no
Virendra SharmaEaling, SouthallLababsent no
Angela SmithBasildonLab (minister)absent no
Jacqui SmithRedditchLab (minister)absent no
Ian StewartEcclesLababsent no
Howard StoateDartfordLab (minister)absent no
Jack StrawBlackburnLab (minister)absent no
Graham StringerManchester, BlackleyLab (minister)absent no
Gerry SutcliffeBradford SouthLab (minister)absent no
Stephen TimmsEast HamLab (minister)absent no
Desmond TurnerBrighton, KemptownLab (minister)absent no
Derek TwiggHaltonLab (minister)absent no
Joan WalleyStoke-on-Trent NorthLab (minister)absent no
Michael WillsNorth SwindonLababsent no
Phil WilsonSedgefieldLababsent no
Alistair CarmichaelOrkney and ShetlandLDem (front bench)aye absent
Mike HancockPortsmouth SouthLDem (front bench)aye absent
Paul KeetchHerefordLDem (front bench)aye absent
Lembit ÖpikMontgomeryshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Paul RowenRochdaleLDem (front bench)aye absent
Jo SwinsonEast DunbartonshireLDem (front bench)tellaye absent
Roger WilliamsBrecon and RadnorshireLDem (front bench)aye absent
Tom BrakeCarshalton and WallingtonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Paul BurstowSutton and CheamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Menzies CampbellNorth East FifeLDem (front bench)absent aye
Nick CleggSheffield, HallamLDem (front bench)absent aye
Edward DaveyKingston and SurbitonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Julia GoldsworthyFalmouth and CamborneLDem (front bench)absent aye
Evan HarrisOxford West and AbingdonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Mark HunterCheadleLDem (front bench)absent aye
Norman LambNorth NorfolkLDem (front bench)absent aye
David LawsYeovilLDem (front bench)absent aye
John LeechManchester, WithingtonLDem (front bench)absent aye
Willie RennieDunfermline and West FifeLDemabsent aye
Matthew TaylorTruro and St AustellLDemabsent aye
Sarah TeatherBrent EastLDem (front bench)absent aye
Alasdair McDonnellBelfast SouthSDLP (front bench)no aye
Stewart HosieDundee EastSNP (front bench)aye absent
Angus MacNeilNa h-Eileanan an IarSNP (front bench)aye absent
Alex SalmondBanff and BuchanSNP (front bench)aye absent
John MasonGlasgow EastSNPabsent aye
Angus RobertsonMoraySNP (front bench)absent aye

Division Similarity Ratio

The measure of similarity between these two divisions is a calculation based on a comparison of their votes.

There were 646 MPs who could have voted in both of these divisions, and 371 voted the same way, with 25 voting in opposite ways. There were 48 MPs who didn't vote in either division, and 202 who voted in only one of them.

We invert the vote on the second division if it makes the distance closer (since the meaning of 'Aye' and 'No' are often interchangeable depending on how the question was put). In this case, they line up the same way. An 's vote in in only one of the divisions contributes a factor of 0.2 to the distance. The calculation runs as follows:

ratio =
[same-votes]
([same-votes] + [differing-votes] + 0.2x[abstain-in-one])
=
371
(371 + 25 + 0.2x202)
=
371
436.4
= 0.850 = 85.0 %.


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