Sodomy: Scotland — 13 Nov 2000 at 19:07

Clause 2 [Defences available to persons who are under age]:

moved Amendments Nos. 3 to 16:

Page 2, line 11, leave out ("sixteen") and insert ("eighteen").
Page 2, line 22, leave out (""a homosexual act"") and insert (""an act of buggery in private with another man"").
Page 2, line 25, leave out ("a homosexual act") and insert ("an act of buggery with another man or commission of an act of buggery").
Page 2, line 26, leave out ("sixteen") and insert ("eighteen").
Page 2, line 27, at end insert--

("(3A) In subsection (1A) of section 1 of the Sexual Offences Act 1967 (as inserted by section 1)--

(a) the words from "an act of gross indecency" to the end shall become paragraph (a); and

(b) after that paragraph there shall be inserted the words, "and

(b) an act of gross indecency with another man or commission of an act of gross indecency by any person shall not be an offence if he is under the age of sixteen and the other party has attained that age.".").

Page 2, line 29, leave out second ("subsection") and insert ("subsections").

Page 2, line 30, leave out ("(8A)") and insert ("(8B)").
Page 2, line 30, leave out ("sixteen") and insert ("eighteen").
Page 2, line 32, leave out ("a homosexual act") and insert ("an act of sodomy").
Page 2, line 33, at end insert--

("(8C) A person under the age of sixteen years does not commit an offence under subsection (5A)(a) or (c) above if he commits or is party to the commission of an act of gross indecency or shameless indecency with a person who has attained that age.").

Page 2, line 36, leave out (""a homosexual act"") and insert (""an act of buggery in private by a man with another man"").

Page 2, line 39, leave out ("a homosexual act by any person") and insert ("an act of buggery by a man with another man or commission of an act of buggery by a man with another man").
Page 2, line 40, leave out ("seventeen") and insert ("eighteen").
Page 2, line 41, at end insert--

("(6) In paragraph (1A) of Article 3 of the Homosexual Offences (Northern Ireland) Order 1982 (as inserted by section 1)--

(a) the words from "an act of gross indecency" to the end shall become paragraph (a); and

(b) after that paragraph there shall be inserted the words "and

(b) an act of gross indecency or commission of an act of gross indecency by any person shall not be an offence if he is under the age of seventeen and the other party has attained that age.".").

On Question, amendments agreed to.

Clause 2, as amended, agreed to.

Clause 3 [Abuse of position of trust]:

moved Amendment No. 17:

Page 3, line 2, at end insert (", including preparing such a person to engage in sexual activity with him at a later stage,").

On Question, Whether the said amendment (No. 17) shall be agreed to?

Their Lordships divided: Contents, 139; Not-Contents, 124.

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Party Summary

Votes by party, red entries are votes against the majority for that party.

What is Tell? '+1 tell' means that in addition one member of that party was a teller for that division lobby.

What is Turnout? This is measured against the total membership of the party at the time of the vote.

PartyMajority (Content)Minority (Not-Content)Turnout
Bishop2 630.8%
Con109 (+2 tell) 148.3%
Crossbench16 1016.1%
Independent Labour1 0100.0%
Independent Socialist1 0100.0%
Lab6 78 (+1 tell)42.5%
LDem0 27 (+1 tell)45.2%
Total:135 12238.2%

Rebel Voters - sorted by party

Lords for which their vote in this division differed from the majority vote of their party. You can see all votes in this division, or every eligible lord who could have voted in this division

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NamePartyVote
The Bishop of ChelmsfordBishopaye
The Bishop of WakefieldBishopaye
Lord Norton of LouthConno
Lord Birt Crossbenchno
Lord Burns Crossbench (front bench)no
Viscount Craigavon Crossbench (front bench)no
The Earl of ListowelCrossbenchno
Lord Northbourne Crossbenchno
Lord Patel Crossbench (front bench)no
Baroness Richardson of CalowCrossbench (front bench)no
Lord Skidelsky Crossbenchno
Lord Walpole Crossbenchno
Baroness Warnock Crossbenchno
Lord Cocks of HartcliffeLabaye
Lord Dixon Lab (minister)aye
Lord Islwyn Labaye
Lord Lofthouse of PontefractLabaye
Lord Orme Labaye
Viscount Simon Lab (minister)aye

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