Lords Amendment — Criminal Justice Bill — Juries in serious or complex fraud trials — 20 Nov 2003 at 13:48

33Leave out Clause 42 The Commons insist on their disagreement to this amendment but propose the following amendments to the words so restored to the Bill-

33H Page 28, line 34, after "where" insert "(a)"

33I Page 28, line 35, at end insert "and

(b) notice has been given under section 51B of the Crime and Disorder Act 1998 (notices in serious or complex fraud cases) in respect of that offence or those offences."

33J Page 28, line 39, leave out "both of the following two conditions are" and insert "the following condition is"

33K Page 28, line 39, leave out "must" and insert "may"

33L Page 28, line 41, at end insert- "(3A) The judge must consult the Lord Chief Justice or a judge nominated by him before making such an order."

33M Page 28, line 42, leave out "The first" and insert "That"

33N Page 29, line 3, leave out subsection (5)

33O Page 29, line 9, leave out "both of those two conditions are" and insert "that condition is"

rose to move, as an amendment to the Motion that the House do not insist on its Amendment No. 33, and do agree with the Commons in their Amendments Nos. 33H to 33O to the words so restored to the Bill, leave out from "House" to end and insert "do insist on its Amendment No. 33".

On Question, Whether the said amendment (No. 33P) shall be agreed to?

Their Lordships divided: Contents, 160; Not-Contents, 116.

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Party Summary

Votes by party, red entries are votes against the majority for that party.

What is Tell? '+1 tell' means that in addition one member of that party was a teller for that division lobby.

What is Turnout? This is measured against the total membership of the party at the time of the vote.

PartyMajority (Content)Minority (Not-Content)Turnout
Bishop1 18.0%
Con91 (+1 tell) 143.5%
Crossbench9 1815.8%
Green1 0100.0%
Independent Labour1 0100.0%
Lab2 93 (+2 tell)50.8%
LDem51 (+1 tell) 081.3%
Other1 033.3%
Total:157 11340.9%

Rebel Voters - sorted by party

Lords for which their vote in this division differed from the majority vote of their party. You can see all votes in this division, or every eligible lord who could have voted in this division

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Lord Lawson of BlabyConno
Lord Ackner Crossbenchaye
Lord Ampthill Crossbenchaye
Lord Chalfont Crossbench (front bench)aye
Lord Lloyd of BerwickCrossbench (front bench)aye
Lord Molyneaux of KilleadCrossbenchaye
Lord Northbourne Crossbenchaye
Lord Rees-Mogg Crossbench (front bench)aye
The Earl of SandwichCrossbench (front bench)aye
Lord Wright of RichmondCrossbenchaye
Baroness Kennedy of The ShawsLabaye
Baroness Mallalieu Lab (minister)aye

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