Lords Amendment — Criminal Justice Bill — Juries in serious or complex fraud trials — 20 Nov 2003 at 13:48

33Leave out Clause 42 The Commons insist on their disagreement to this amendment but propose the following amendments to the words so restored to the Bill-

33H Page 28, line 34, after "where" insert "(a)"

33I Page 28, line 35, at end insert "and

(b) notice has been given under section 51B of the Crime and Disorder Act 1998 (notices in serious or complex fraud cases) in respect of that offence or those offences."

33J Page 28, line 39, leave out "both of the following two conditions are" and insert "the following condition is"

33K Page 28, line 39, leave out "must" and insert "may"

33L Page 28, line 41, at end insert- "(3A) The judge must consult the Lord Chief Justice or a judge nominated by him before making such an order."

33M Page 28, line 42, leave out "The first" and insert "That"

33N Page 29, line 3, leave out subsection (5)

33O Page 29, line 9, leave out "both of those two conditions are" and insert "that condition is"

rose to move, as an amendment to the Motion that the House do not insist on its Amendment No. 33, and do agree with the Commons in their Amendments Nos. 33H to 33O to the words so restored to the Bill, leave out from "House" to end and insert "do insist on its Amendment No. 33".

On Question, Whether the said amendment (No. 33P) shall be agreed to?

Their Lordships divided: Contents, 160; Not-Contents, 116.

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