Comparison of Divisions: Counter-Terrorism Bill — Extension of Maximim Period of Police Detention Without Charge in Terror Cases from 28 to 42 Days — 11 Jun 2008 at 17:45 with Division No. 84 on 9 Nov 2005 at 16:30

(Swap the two divisions around).

Vote (a) : Counter-Terrorism Bill — Extension of Maximim Period of Police Detention Without Charge in Terror Cases from 28 to 42 Days - 11 Jun 2008 at 17:45 - Division No. 219

The majority of MPs voted to extend the period of police detention without making any criminal charges of terrorist suspects from 28 days[1] to 42 days, subject to a complex series of bureaucratic procedures. See also the next vote which outlined the powers themselves.

The procedures include:

  • Statement - The Home Secretary must make a statement that a grave exceptional terrorist threat has occurred or is occurring for which this power to detain suspects without charge beyond 28 days is necessary for the purposes of investigation and bringing to justice those responsible.[2]
  • Legal advice - Independent legal advice (from a lawyer not employed by the Government) must be obtained as to whether the Home Secretary can be properly satisfied by his or her statement.[3]
  • DPP report - A report must be made by the Director of Public Prosecutions and the chief police officer which states that there are reasonable grounds to believe that the detention of one or more persons beyond 28 days will be necessary to obtain or preserve evidence that relates to the commission by the detained person or persons of a serious terrorist offence.[4]
  • Committee chairs - A copy of the legal advice and the report must be provided in confidence to the chairmen of the Home Affairs Committee, Joint Committee on Human Rights, and the Intelligence and Security Committee.[5]

Although this threatened to be the largest Labour Party rebellion for Gordon Brown,[6] a bigger one occurred six weeks earlier.[7]

A comparison between MPs' votes on the 90 day detention and this 42 day detention is here or reported in the Guardian here. The list of related Parliamentary votes on detaining persons without charge is here.

Vote (b) : Terrorism Bill — Extension Of Period Of Detention to 90 Days - 9 Nov 2005 at 16:30 - Division No. 84

The majority of MPs voted against extending the period of police detention of a terrorist suspects without presenting charges of a crime to 90 days.

They did this by voting against the restatement from "3 months" to "ninety days"[1] of the time limit proposed in the bill.[2]

Had this restatement been allowed, then all further amendments to revise this proposal downwards (to 28 days in the case of the next vote)[3] would have been blocked.[4]

Note to readers: This is the first Government defeat in a whipped vote since 1997, managing to overturn their majority of 66.

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Opposite in Votes - sorted by party

MPs for which their vote on Motion (a) was opposite to their vote on Motion (b). You can also see all differing votes between these two divisions, or simply all the votes.

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NameConstituencyPartyVote (a)Vote (b)
Peter TapsellLouth and HorncastleConno aye
Gregory CampbellEast LondonderryDUP (front bench)aye no
Nigel DoddsBelfast NorthDUP (front bench)aye no
Jeffrey M. DonaldsonLagan ValleyDUP (front bench)aye no
William McCreaSouth AntrimDUP (front bench)aye no
Ian PaisleyNorth AntrimDUPaye no
Iris RobinsonStrangfordDUPaye no
Peter RobinsonBelfast EastDUPaye no
David SimpsonUpper BannDUP (front bench)aye no
Sammy WilsonEast AntrimDUP (front bench)aye no
Michael ClaphamBarnsley West and PenistoneLab (minister)aye no
Ann CryerKeighleyLab (minister)aye no
David HamiltonMidlothianLab (minister)aye no
Doug HendersonNewcastle upon Tyne NorthLabaye no
Siân JamesSwansea EastLab (minister)aye no
Sadiq KhanTootingLab (minister)aye no
Mark LazarowiczEdinburgh North and LeithLab (minister)aye no
Tony LloydManchester CentralLab (minister)aye no
Andrew LoveEdmontonLab (minister)aye no
Chris McCaffertyCalder ValleyLabaye no
George MudieLeeds EastLab (minister)aye no
Dennis SkinnerBolsoverLab (minister)aye no
Peter SoulsbyLeicester SouthLab (minister)aye no
Jon TrickettHemsworthLabaye no
Andrew DismoreHendonLab (minister)no aye
Paul FarrellyNewcastle-under-LymeLab (minister)no aye
Andrew MacKinlayThurrockLab (minister)no aye
Doug NaysmithBristol North WestLab (minister)no aye

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