Education Bill — Control of Regulation — 23 Jul 2002 at 18:29

The majority Content voters passed an amendment to the Education Bill. This vote was about a Lords amendment that had been rejected by the House of Commons with regards to controlling the amount of material that is sent to schools by public bodies. It came back to the House of Lords to be debated and voted on again.

An alternative amendment (14A) was proposed by Baroness Ashton of Upholland. This was opposed by the Conservatives and Baroness Blatch proposed another alternative amendment (14B) which kept the same spirit of the original Lords amendment.

Again the government disagreed and proposed amendment 14BA which was the eventual amendment that was voted on. This differed from the Conservative amendment in that rather than putting a legal duty on the Secretary of State to control regulation it merely requires the minister to "have regard to" controlling regulation.

In the debate Baroness Blatch explained why the Tories wanted a legal duty on the Secretary of State to limit regulation and guidance to governing bodies and teachers as follows:

  • "The most frequent reason given by most teachers leaving the profession is the same—too much bureaucracy, too much interference and too many government initiatives."[1]

However, Baroness Ashton thought the amendment proposed by the Conservatives might increase the level of prescription that schools face:

  • "Through this Bill we have set out to deregulate. We have been absolutely clear about saying that we believe that education legislation is over-prescriptive and that the level of regulation is too great. And in a very consistent way, we have set out in this Bill to begin to change that. The way we have done it is this. We have taken a piece of over-prescriptive primary legislation and repealed it, but taken a power to make secondary legislation. We have made clear that the regulations we will make will be significantly less prescriptive than the primary legislation that has gone before. But the crucial point is that if we cannot make regulations, we cannot deregulate."[2]

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Lord Aberdare Conno
Lord Acton Labaye
Lord Addington LDemaye
Lord Ahmed Lab (minister)aye
Lord Alderdice LDemaye
Viscount Allenby of MegiddoCrossbench (front bench)aye
Lord Alli Labaye
Baroness Amos Lab (minister)aye
Lord Ampthill Crossbenchaye
Baroness Andrews Lab (minister)aye
Baroness Anelay of St JohnsConno
Lord Archer of SandwellLab (minister)aye
The Earl of ArranConno
Baroness Ashton of UphollandLab (minister)aye
Viscount Astor Conno
Lord Astor of HeverConno
Earl Attlee Conno
Lord Avebury LDem (front bench)aye
Lord Bach Lab (minister)aye
Baroness Barker LDemaye
Lord Barnett Lab (minister)aye
Lord Bassam of BrightonLab (minister)aye
Lord Berkeley Labaye
Lord Bernstein of CraigweilLabaye
Lord Biffen Conno
Baroness Billingham Lab (minister)aye
Baroness Blackstone Lab (minister)aye
Lord Blackwell Conno
Lord Blaker Conno
Baroness Blatch Con (front bench)no
Viscount Bledisloe Crossbenchaye
Lord Boardman Conno
Baroness Boothroyd Crossbenchaye
Lord Borrie Labaye
Lord Boston of FavershamCrossbenchaye
Lord Bowness Con (front bench)no
Lord Brabazon of TaraCrossbench (front bench)no
Lord Bragg Labaye
Lord Brennan Lab (minister)aye
Lord Brett Labaye
Viscount Bridgeman Con (front bench)no
Baroness Brigstocke Conno
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Lord Brooke of Sutton MandevilleConno
Lord Brookman Labaye
Lord Brooks of TremorfaLabaye
Lord Brougham and Vaux Con (front bench)no
Lord Burlison Labaye
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Lord Carlisle of BucklowConno
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Lord Christopher Lab (minister)aye
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Lord Colwyn Con (front bench)no
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Lord Crathorne Conno
Baroness Crawley Lab (minister)aye
Lord Crickhowell Con (front bench)no
Baroness Cumberlege Conno
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Lord Davies of CoityLabaye
Lord Davies of OldhamLab (minister)aye
Lord Dean of HarptreeConno
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Lord Dearing Otheraye
Lord Denham Conno
Lord Desai Lab (minister)aye
Lord Dholakia LDem (front bench)aye
Lord Dixon Labaye
Lord Donoughue Labaye
Lord Dormand of EasingtonLabaye
Lord Dubs Lab (minister)aye
The Earl of DundeeCon (front bench)no
Lord Eatwell Labaye
Baroness Eccles of MoultonConno
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Lord Evans of ParksideLab (minister)aye
Lord Evans of Temple GuitingLabaye
Lord Evans of WatfordLabaye
Lord Falconer of ThorotonLab (minister)aye
Baroness Falkender Labaye
Viscount Falkland LDem (front bench)aye
Baroness Farrington of RibbletonLab (minister)aye
Lord Faulkner of WorcesterLab (minister)aye
Lord Fearn LDemaye
Lord Feldman Conno
Earl Ferrers Con (front bench)no
Lord Filkin Lab (minister)aye
Lord Fitt Independent Socialistaye
Baroness Flather Conno
Baroness Fookes Con (front bench)no
Lord Forsyth of DrumleanCon (front bench)no
Lord Fowler Conno
Lord Fraser of CarmyllieConno
Lord Freeman Conno
Lord Fyfe of FairfieldLabaye
Baroness Gale Labaye
Baroness Gardner of ParkesConno
Lord Geddes Con (front bench)no
Baroness Gibson of Market RasenLab (minister)aye
Lord Gilbert Lab (minister)aye
Lord Gilmour of CraigmillarConno
Lord Gladwin of CleeLabaye
Lord Glentoran Conno
Baroness Golding Labaye
Lord Goldsmith Lab (minister)aye
Lord Goodhart LDem (front bench)aye
Lord Gordon of StrathblaneLabaye
Viscount Goschen Conno
Baroness Goudie Lab (minister)aye
Baroness Gould of PotternewtonLab (minister)aye
Lord Graham of EdmontonLab (minister)aye
Lord Gray of ContinConno
Lord Greaves LDem (front bench)aye
Lord Grenfell Lab (minister)aye
Lord Griffiths of FforestfachCon (front bench)no
Lord Grocott Lab (minister)tellaye
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Baroness Hanham Con (front bench)no
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Lord Haskins Labaye
Lord Hayhoe Conno
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Lord Henley Con (front bench)no
Lord Higgins Conno
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Lord Hodgson of Astley AbbottsConno
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Lord Holme of CheltenhamLDemaye
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Lord Jones Labaye
Lord Jopling Con (front bench)no
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Lord King of BridgwaterConno
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Lord Kirkhill Labaye
Baroness Knight of CollingtreeConno
Lord Laing of DunphailConno
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The Earl of LindsayConno
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Lord Lyell Conno
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Lord MacKenzie of CulkeinLabaye
Lord Mackenzie of FramwellgateLabaye
Lord Mackie of BenshieLDemaye
Lord Maclennan of RogartLDem (front bench)aye
Baroness Maddock LDemaye
Lord Mancroft Con (front bench)no
Lord Mason of BarnsleyLabaye
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Lord Mayhew of TwysdenCon (front bench)no
Lord McCarthy Labaye
Lord McColl of DulwichCon (front bench)no
Lord McIntosh of HaringeyLab (minister)tellaye
Baroness McIntosh of HudnallLab (minister)aye
Lord McNally LDem (front bench)aye
Lord Merlyn-Rees Labaye
Baroness Miller of HendonConno
Lord Milner of LeedsLabaye
Lord Mishcon Labaye
Lord Mitchell Labaye
Lord Monson Crossbenchno
Lord Montagu of BeaulieuConno
The Duke of MontroseConno
Lord Morgan Lab (minister)aye
Lord Morris of AberavonLabaye
Lord Morris of ManchesterLabaye
Lord Moser Crossbenchaye
Lord Mowbray and Stourton Conno
Lord Murton of LindisfarneConno
Lord Naseby Conno
Baroness Nicol Labaye
Baroness Noakes Conno
Baroness Northover LDem (front bench)aye
Lord Norton of LouthCon (front bench)no
Baroness O'Cathain Con (front bench)no
Lord Oakeshott of Seagrove BayLDem (front bench)aye
The Earl of OnslowConno
Baroness Oppenheim-Barnes Con (front bench)no
Lord Orme Labaye
Lord Ouseley Crossbenchaye
Lord Palmer Crossbench (front bench)no
Lord Parekh Lab (minister)aye
Lord Parkinson Conno
Baroness Park of MonmouthConno
Lord Patel of BlackburnLabaye
Lord Pearson of RannochConno
Lord Pendry Labaye
Baroness Perry of SouthwarkCon (front bench)no
Lord Perry of WaltonLDemaye
Lord Peston Lab (minister)aye
Lord Phillips of SudburyLDem (front bench)aye
Lord Pilkington of OxenfordCon (front bench)no
Baroness Pitkeathley Lab (minister)aye
Lord Plant of HighfieldLabaye
Baroness Platt of WrittleCon (front bench)no
Baroness Prashar Crossbench (front bench)aye
Lord Prys-Davies Lab (minister)aye
Lord Puttnam Lab (minister)aye
Lord Radice Labaye
Baroness Ramsay of CartvaleLabaye
Lord Randall of St BudeauxLabaye
Baroness Rawlings Con (front bench)no
Lord Razzall LDem (front bench)aye
Lord Rea Lab (minister)aye
Lord Redesdale LDemaye
Lord Rees Conno
Baroness Rendell of BaberghLab (minister)aye
Lord Renfrew of KaimsthornCon (front bench)no
Lord Renton Conno
Lord Renwick of CliftonLabaye
Lord Richard Labaye
Baroness Richardson of CalowCrossbench (front bench)aye
Lord Roberts of ConwyConno
Lord Rodgers of Quarry BankLDem (front bench)aye
Lord Rogan UUPno
Lord Rooker Lab (minister)aye
Lord Roper LDem (front bench)aye
Lord Rotherwick Conno
Earl Russell LDemaye
Lord Russell-Johnston LDemaye
Lord Sainsbury of TurvilleLab (minister)aye
Lord Sandberg LDemaye
Baroness Scotland of AsthalLab (minister)aye
Baroness Scott of Needham MarketLDemaye
Baroness Seccombe Con (front bench)tellno
Baroness Serota Labaye
Lord Sewel Labaye
Lord Sharman LDemaye
Baroness Sharp of GuildfordLDemaye
Baroness Sharples Conno
Lord Shaw of NorthsteadConno
Lord Sheldon Labaye
Lord Shutt of GreetlandLDem (front bench)aye
Viscount Simon Lab (minister)aye
Lord Simon of HighburyLabaye
Lord Skelmersdale Con (front bench)no
Lord Smith of CliftonLDemaye
Baroness Smith of GilmorehillLabaye
Lord Smith of LeighLabaye
Lord Soulsby of Swaffham PriorCon (front bench)no
Lord St John of BletsoCrossbenchaye
Lord St John of FawsleyConno
Lord Stewartby Conno
Lord Stodart of LeastonConno
Lord Stone of BlackheathLab (minister)aye
Lord Strabolgi Labaye
Lord Strathclyde Con (front bench)no
Baroness Symons of Vernham DeanLab (minister)aye
Lord Taylor of BlackburnLabaye
Lord Tebbit Conno
Lord Temple-Morris Labaye
Viscount Tenby Crossbench (front bench)aye
Lord Thomas of GresfordLDem (front bench)aye
Lord Thomas of GwydirConno
Baroness Thomas of WalliswoodLDem (front bench)aye
Lord Thomson of MonifiethLDemaye
Baroness Thornton Labaye
Lord Tomlinson Lab (minister)aye
Lord Tope LDemaye
Baroness Trumpington Con (front bench)no
Lord Tugendhat Conno
Lord Turnberg Lab (minister)aye
Baroness Turner of CamdenLabaye
Lord Vivian Con (front bench)no
Lord Waddington Con (front bench)no
Lord Wade of ChorltonCon (front bench)no
Lord Walker of DoncasterLabaye
Baroness Walmsley LDem (front bench)aye
Baroness Warnock Crossbenchaye
Baroness Warwick of UndercliffeLab (minister)aye
Lord Watson of RichmondLDemaye
Lord Weatherill Crossbench (front bench)aye
Baroness Whitaker Lab (minister)aye
Lord Wigoder LDemaye
Baroness Wilcox Con (front bench)no
Baroness Williams of CrosbyLDem (front bench)aye
Lord Williams of ElvelLab (minister)aye
Lord Williams of MostynLab (minister)aye
Lord Williamson of HortonCrossbench (front bench)aye
Lord Willoughby de Broke Conno
Lord Winston Lab (minister)aye
Lord Wolfson Conno
Lord Woolmer of LeedsLabaye

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