Armed Forces (Pensions and Compensation) Bill — 2 Nov 2004 at 17:00

:TITLE3:LORDS AMENDMENT

2 After Clause 6, Insert the following new clause-

"Post-retirement marriages

As of 6th April 2005 widows, widowers and surviving registered unmarried partners of all service personnel shall receive a full widows' forces family pension based on their spouses' or partners' length of service and final salary, provided that their marriage took place before the service personnel's 60th birthday."

The Commons disagree to this amendment for the following reason-

2A Because it would involve a charge on public funds, and the Commons do not offer any further reason, trusting that this reason may be deemed sufficient.

rose to move, as an amendment to the Motion that this House do not insist on its Amendment No. 2, to which the Commons have disagreed for their reason numbered 2A, at end insert "but do propose the following amendment in lieu thereof-

2C After Clause 6, Insert the following new clause-

"Post-retirement marriages

As of 6th April 2005 widows or widowers over the age of 75 of all service personnel shall receive a full widows' forces family pension based on their spouses' reckonable service and final salary, provided that their marriage took place before the service personnel's 60th birthday.""

On Question, Whether the said amendment shall be agreed to?

Their Lordships divided: Contents, 149; Not-Contents, 126.

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