Voting Comparison — Lord Carter of Coles
to Baroness Miller of Hendon

Lord Carter of Coles

Note: our records only go back to 1997 for the Commons and 2001 for the Lords (more details).

FromToPartyRebellions (explain...)Attendance (explain...)Teller
22 Jun 2004 still in office Lab 8 votes out of 1157, 0.7% 1157 votes out of 2137, 54.1% 0 times

Voting Differences

HouseDateSubjectLord Carter of ColesBaroness Miller of HendonRôle
Lords25 Mar 2014Water Bill — Report (1st Day) minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords25 Mar 2014Water Bill — Report (1st Day) minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords31 Jan 2014European Union (Referendum) Bill — Require Report on UK Relationship With EU Post Withdrawl Prior to EU Membership Referendum Majorityno disagrees with policy
Lords24 Jan 2014European Union (Referendum) Bill — Require Report on Impact of UK Ceasing to be an EU Member Majorityno disagrees with policy
Lords24 Jan 2014European Union (Referendum) Bill — Wording of Referendum Question Majorityno disagrees with policy
Lords22 Jan 2014Anti-social Behaviour, Crime and Policing Bill — Report (4th Day) Majorityno disagrees with policy
Lords20 Jan 2014Anti-social Behaviour, Crime and Policing Bill — Report (3rd Day) minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords20 Jan 2014Anti-social Behaviour, Crime and Policing Bill — Report (3rd Day) minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords7 Jan 2014Children and Families Bill — Report (3rd Day) minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords17 Dec 2013Children and Families Bill — Report (2nd Day) minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords11 Dec 2013Energy Bill — Commons Reason minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords25 Jun 2013Offender Rehabilitation Bill [HL] — Report minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords25 Jun 2013Offender Rehabilitation Bill [HL] — Report Majorityno disagrees with policy
Lords19 Mar 2013Welfare Benefits Up-rating Bill — Report minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords19 Mar 2013Welfare Benefits Up-rating Bill — Report minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords19 Mar 2013Welfare Benefits Up-rating Bill — Report minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords12 Mar 2013Growth and Infrastructure Bill — Report (2nd Day) minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords12 Feb 2013Public Service Pensions Bill — Report Majorityno disagrees with policy
Lords5 Feb 2013Defamation Bill — Report Majorityno disagrees with policy
Lords14 Jan 2013Electoral Registration and Administration Bill — Committee (2nd Day) Majorityno disagrees with policy
Lords18 Dec 2012Crime and Courts Bill [HL] — Third Reading Majorityno disagrees with policy
Lords27 Nov 2012Crime and Courts Bill [HL] — Report (1st Day) Majorityno disagrees with policy
Lords19 Nov 2012Justice and Security Bill [HL] — Report (1st Day) minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords19 Nov 2012Justice and Security Bill [HL] — Report (1st Day) minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords19 Nov 2012Justice and Security Bill [HL] — Report (1st Day) minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords6 Nov 2012Financial Services Bill — Report (1st Day) minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords22 Oct 2012Local Government Finance Bill — Third Reading Majorityno disagrees with policy
Lords16 Jul 2012Groceries Code Adjudicator Bill [HL] Report — Report minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords26 Apr 2012Sunday Trading (London Olympic Games and Paralympic Games) Bill [HL] — Committee and Remaining Stages minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords26 Apr 2012Sunday Trading (London Olympic Games and Paralympic Games) Bill [HL] — Committee and Remaining Stages minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords26 Apr 2012Sunday Trading (London Olympic Games and Paralympic Games) Bill [HL] — Committee and Remaining Stages minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords25 Apr 2012Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders Bill — Commons Reasons and Amendment minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords24 Apr 2012Protection of Freedoms Bill — Commons Reason and Amendments minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords27 Mar 2012Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders Bill — Third Reading minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords27 Mar 2012Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders Bill — Third Reading minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords27 Mar 2012Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders Bill — Third Reading minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords27 Mar 2012Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders Bill — Third Reading minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords27 Mar 2012Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders Bill — Third Reading minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords27 Mar 2012Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders Bill — Third Reading minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords27 Mar 2012Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders Bill — Third Reading Majorityno disagrees with policy
Lords27 Mar 2012Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders Bill — Third Reading Majorityno disagrees with policy
Lords20 Mar 2012Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders Bill — Report (5th Day) minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords20 Mar 2012Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders Bill — Report (5th Day) minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords19 Mar 2012Health and Social Care Bill — Third Reading minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords19 Mar 2012Health and Social Care Bill — Third Reading minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords19 Mar 2012Health and Social Care Bill — Third Reading minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords13 Mar 2012Health and Social Care Bill — Report (7th Day) (Continued) minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords13 Mar 2012Health and Social Care Bill — Report (7th Day) (Continued) minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords13 Mar 2012Health and Social Care Bill — Report (7th Day) minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords12 Mar 2012Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders Bill — Report (3rd Day) minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords12 Mar 2012Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders Bill — Report (3rd Day) minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords5 Mar 2012Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders Bill — Report (1st Day) Majorityno disagrees with policy
Lords27 Feb 2012Health and Social Care Bill — Report (3rd Day)Relevant documents: 18th and 22nd Reports from the Constitution Committee minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords14 Feb 2012Welfare Reform Bill — Commons Reasons and Amendment minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords14 Feb 2012Welfare Reform Bill — Commons Reasons and Amendment Majorityno disagrees with policy
Lords13 Feb 2012Health and Social Care Bill — Report (2nd Day) minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords13 Feb 2012Health and Social Care Bill — Report (2nd Day) minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords31 Jan 2012Welfare Reform Bill — Third Reading Majorityno disagrees with policy
Lords25 Jan 2012Welfare Reform Bill — Report (6th Day) minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords17 Jan 2012Welfare Reform Bill — Report (4th Day) minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords11 Jan 2012Welfare Reform Bill — Report (3rd Day) Majorityno disagrees with policy
Lords12 Dec 2011Welfare Reform Bill — Report (1st Day) (Continued) minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords12 Dec 2011Welfare Reform Bill — Report (1st Day) (Continued) minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords1 Nov 2011Education Bill — Report (4th Day) minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords1 Nov 2011Education Bill — Report (4th Day) minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords26 Oct 2011Education Bill — Report (3rd Day) minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords26 Oct 2011Education Bill — Report (3rd Day) minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords25 Oct 2011Health and Social Care Bill — Committee (1st Day) minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords12 Oct 2011Health and Social Care Bill — select comittee to scrutinise Bill minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords12 Oct 2011Health and Social Care Bill — Reject at Second Reading minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords14 Sep 2011Police Reform and Social Responsibility Bill — Commons Amendments minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords14 Sep 2011Police Reform and Social Responsibility Bill — Commons Amendments minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords12 Sep 2011Localism Bill — Report (3rd Day) (Continued) minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords6 Sep 2011Equality Act 2010 (Specific Duties) Regulations 2011 — Motion to Approve Majorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords5 Sep 2011Localism Bill — Report (1st Day) minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords5 Sep 2011Localism Bill — Report (1st Day) minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords20 Jul 2011Police Reform and Social Responsibility Bill — Third Reading minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords11 Jul 2011Police Reform and Social Responsibility Bill — Report (3rd Day) minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords11 Jul 2011Police Reform and Social Responsibility Bill — Report (3rd Day) minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords16 May 2011Fixed-term Parliaments Bill — Report (2nd Day) minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords11 May 2011Police Reform and Social Responsibility Bill — Committee (1st Day) Majorityno disagrees with policy
Lords10 May 2011Fixed-term Parliaments Bill — Report (1st Day) minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords10 May 2011Fixed-term Parliaments Bill — Report (1st Day) minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords9 May 2011Public Bodies Bill [HL] — Third Reading minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords4 May 2011Postal Services Bill — Report (1st Day) minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords4 May 2011Postal Services Bill — Report (1st Day) minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords4 Apr 2011Public Bodies Bill [HL] — Report (3rd Day) minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords30 Mar 2011Pensions Bill [HL] — Report minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords16 Feb 2011Parliamentary Voting System and Constituencies Bill — Allowing Greater Variation from Mean Number of Electors in MP Constituency in Exceptional Circumstances minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords16 Feb 2011Parliamentary Voting System and Constituencies Bill — Threshold for Making Result of AV Referendum Binding Majorityno disagrees with policy
Lords8 Feb 2011Parliamentary Voting System and Constituencies Bill — Establish Committee on Parliamentary Constituency Reforms minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords8 Feb 2011Parliamentary Voting System and Constituencies Bill — Consultation Period on New Constituency Boundaries minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords14 Dec 2010University Tuition Fee Cap raise to £9,000 minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords14 Dec 2010University Tuition Fee Cap raise to £6,000 minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords14 Dec 2010Public Bodies Bill [HL] — Committee (4th Day) — Abolition of Chief Coroner Majorityno disagrees with policy
Lords29 Nov 2010Business of the House — Motion on Standing Orders minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords17 Nov 2010Identity Documents Bill — Report Majorityno disagrees with policy
Lords6 Jul 2010Academies Bill [HL] — Report (1st Day) minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords2 Mar 2010Equality Bill — Report Majorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords8 Jul 2009Parliamentary Standards Bill — Second Reading — amendment motion Majorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords16 Jun 2009Apprenticeships, Skills, Children and Learning Bill — Committee (1st Day) minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords27 Oct 2008Pensions Bill Majorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords13 Oct 2008Counter-Terrorism Bill — No extension of period of detention beyond 28 days minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords2 Jul 2008Pensions Bill minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords30 Jun 2008Pensions Bill Majorityno disagrees with policy
Lords18 Jun 2008Lisbon Treaty — Delay till 20 October 2008 — rejected Majorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords11 Jun 2008Lisbon Treaty — Change the date upon which the Treaty will come into force — rejected Majorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords9 Jun 2008Lisbon Treaty — Restrict the jurisdiction of the Court of Justice of the European Union — rejected Majorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords9 Jun 2008Lisbon Treaty — Parliamentary approval required before the UK can take on more obligations from the European Union — rejected Majorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords7 May 2008Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill — ping pong — Protection of freedom of expression (sexual orientation) minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords7 May 2008Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords25 Feb 2008Climate Change Bill — Five yearly account Majorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords21 Feb 2008Banking (Special Provisions) Bill — Impact on ccompetition minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords21 Feb 2008Banking (Special Provisions) Bill — Freedom of Information minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords21 Feb 2008Banking (Special Provisions) Bill — Independent audits minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords21 Feb 2008Banking (Special Provisions) Bill — Month or year sunset clause Majorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords17 Oct 2007Legal Services Bill [HL] minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords9 Oct 2007UK Borders Bill — The Border and Immigration Agency must ensure the welfare of children as part of its remit — rejected noaye disagrees with policy
Lords8 Oct 2007Local Government and Public Involvement in Health Bill Majorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords24 Jul 2007Pensions Bill minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords17 Jul 2007Corporate Manslaughter and Corporate Homicide Bill minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords9 Jul 2007Corporate Manslaughter and Corporate Homicide Bill minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords9 Jul 2007Statistics and Registration Service Bill minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords27 Jun 2007Offender Management Bill minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords26 Jun 2007Greater London Authority Bill Majorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords25 Jun 2007Corporate Manslaughter and Corporate Homicide Bill — custody minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords25 Jun 2007Statistics and Registration Service Bill Majorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords19 Jun 2007Greater London Authority Bill Majorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords19 Jun 2007Greater London Authority Bill minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords6 Jun 2007Pensions Bill minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords6 Jun 2007Pensions Bill minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords15 May 2007Legal Services Bill [HL] minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords8 May 2007Legal Services Bill [HL] Majorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords8 May 2007Legal Services Bill [HL] — Report Stage — delegation of complaints minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords8 May 2007Legal Services Bill [HL] minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords30 Apr 2007Serious Crime Bill [HL] minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords25 Apr 2007Serious Crime Bill [HL] — intercept evidence in court minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords18 Apr 2007Legal Services Bill [HL] minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords18 Apr 2007Legal Services Bill [HL] minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords27 Mar 2007Police (Northern Ireland) Act 2000 (Renewal of Temporary Provisions) Order 2007 Majorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords20 Mar 2007Fraud (Trials without a Jury) Bill minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords27 Feb 2007Further Education and Training Bill [HL] minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords26 Feb 2007Mental Health Bill [HL] — services for minors. minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords19 Feb 2007Mental Health Bill [HL] — Treatability test. minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords19 Feb 2007Mental Health Bill [HL] — Exclusions from the Act minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords10 Jan 2007Mental Health Bill [HL] — requirement for incompetance of patient. minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords2 Nov 2006Companies Bill [HL] Majorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords2 Nov 2006Companies Bill [HL] minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords13 Jul 2006Northern Ireland (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords13 Jul 2006Government of Wales Bill minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords13 Jul 2006Government of Wales Bill minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords11 Jul 2006Police and Justice Bill minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords11 Jul 2006Police and Justice Bill minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords27 Jun 2006Government of Wales Bill minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords27 Jun 2006Government of Wales Bill minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords27 Jun 2006Government of Wales Bill minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords26 Jun 2006Health Bill Majorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords20 Jun 2006Police and Justice Bill minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords12 Jun 2006Childcare Bill Majorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords12 Jun 2006Childcare Bill noaye disagrees with policy
Lords23 May 2006Company Law Reform Bill [HL] minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords23 May 2006Company Law Reform Bill [HL] minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords10 May 2006Company Law Reform Bill [HL] minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords10 May 2006Company Law Reform Bill [HL] minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords26 Apr 2006Violent Crime Reduction Bill — revenue from alcohol disorder zones Majorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords25 Apr 2006Work and Families Bill Majorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords25 Apr 2006Conventions: Joint Committee Majorityno disagrees with policy
Lords24 Apr 2006National Lottery Bill minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords21 Mar 2006Consumer Credit Bill Majorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords20 Mar 2006Natural Environment and Rural Communities Bill Majorityno disagrees with policy
Lords15 Mar 2006Natural Environment and Rural Communities Bill Majorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords15 Mar 2006Identity Cards Bill minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords8 Mar 2006Civil Aviation Bill — Night flights — removal of quota minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords6 Mar 2006Identity Cards Bill — Voluntary registration when applying for a passport — insisted minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords23 Jan 2006Identity Cards Bill (amendment 46: compulsion to register) minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords23 Jan 2006Identity Cards Bill (amendment 38: compulsion via designated documents) minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords17 Jan 2006Terrorism Bill minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords16 Jan 2006Identity Cards Bill (security of data) minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords16 Jan 2006Identity Cards Bill — Report of Costs and Benefits minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords29 Nov 2005Road Safety Bill [HL] — level crossings minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords29 Nov 2005Road Safety Bill [HL] — Compulsory surrender of old-form licences minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords9 Nov 2005Equality Bill [HL] minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords25 Oct 2005Racial and Religious Hatred Bill minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords18 Oct 2005Charities Bill [HL] Majorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords18 Oct 2005Charities Bill [HL] Majorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords17 Oct 2005Criminal Defence Service Bill [HL] minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords15 Mar 2005Constitutional Reform Bill [HL] minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords15 Mar 2005Constitutional Reform Bill [HL] minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords10 Mar 2005(Lords Amendments Nos. 38, 39, 40) minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords10 Mar 2005(Lords Amendments Nos. 38, 39, 40) minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords10 Mar 2005(Lords Amendments Nos. 38, 39, 40) minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords10 Mar 2005(Lords Amendments Nos. 38, 39, 40) minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords10 Mar 2005(Lords Amendments Nos. 38, 39, 40) minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords10 Mar 2005(Lords Amendment 33D) minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords10 Mar 2005(Lords Amendments 27, 31, 32,) minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords10 Mar 2005Prevention of Terrorism Bill minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords10 Mar 2005Prevention of Terrorism Bill minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords8 Mar 2005Prevention of Terrorism Bill minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords8 Mar 2005Prevention of Terrorism Bill minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords8 Mar 2005Prevention of Terrorism Bill minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords8 Mar 2005Prevention of Terrorism Bill minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords8 Mar 2005Prevention of Terrorism Bill minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords7 Mar 2005Prevention of Terrorism Bill minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords2 Mar 2005Education Bill — Requirements to be Registered with General Teaching Council — rejected Majorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords28 Feb 2005Disability Discrimination Bill [HL] Majorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords28 Feb 2005Inquiries Bill [HL] minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords10 Feb 2005Public Services Ombudsman (Wales) Bill [HL] minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords3 Feb 2005Disability Discrimination Bill [HL] Majorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords13 Jan 2005Education Bill [HL] Majorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords7 Dec 2004Constitutional Reform Bill [HL] Majorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords7 Dec 2004Constitutional Reform Bill [HL] minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords7 Dec 2004Constitutional Reform Bill [HL] minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords18 Nov 2004Pensions Bill — Lords Amendment Majorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords18 Nov 2004Civil Contingencies Bill — Lords Amendment minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords17 Nov 2004Hunting Bill — Commons proposals on commencement minorityno disagrees with policy
Lords17 Nov 2004Hunting Bill — Lords Amendment — commencement minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords17 Nov 2004Hunting Bill — Lords Amendment minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords17 Nov 2004Pensions Bill — Lords Amendment minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords17 Nov 2004Civil Partnership Bill — Commons Amendment Majorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords16 Nov 2004Lords Amendment Majorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords16 Nov 2004Lords Amendment Majorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords16 Nov 2004Lords Amendment Majorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords15 Nov 2004Pensions Bill minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords9 Nov 2004Civil Contingencies Bill minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords8 Sep 2004Armed Forces (Pensions and Compensation) Bill minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords19 Jul 2004Horserace Betting and Olympic Lottery Bill Majorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords13 Jul 2004Constitutional Reform Bill [HL] minorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords12 Jul 2004Fire and Rescue Services Bill Majorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords12 Jul 2004Fire and Rescue Services Bill Majorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords8 Jul 2004Traffic Management Bill Majorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords8 Jul 2004Traffic Management Bill Majorityaye disagrees with policy
Lords5 Jul 2004Children Bill [HL] Majorityno disagrees with policy
Lords22 Jun 2004Higher Education Bill Majorityaye disagrees with policy

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